born in 1950, he apparently became a regular pioneer in 1971.. but wait.... let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18.... depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service.
yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service.
assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970.... how did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a regular pioneer in less than year???.
Thanks Sir82, Cedars and James...
I find that Vietnam veterans who saw any combat usually don't like to talk about the war... they tend to change the subject... whereas Vietnam veterans who saw little to no action like to talk about the war at every available opportunity...
born in 1950, he apparently became a regular pioneer in 1971.. but wait.... let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18.... depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service.
yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service.
assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970.... how did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a regular pioneer in less than year???.
Born in 1950, he apparently became a Regular Pioneer in 1971.
But wait...
Let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18...
Depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service. Yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service. Assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970...
How did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a Regular Pioneer in less than year???
Something doesn't quite add up...
Any insight would be much appreciated...
i am primarily posting this to barbara anderson, but obviously everyone is welcome to correct or comment on my remarks as they see fit.
mrs. anderson, i realize that trying to cover all bases in your pending russell bio would be impossible, but i do hope that you will be able to include a section on the first president of the watch tower society, william h. conley.
i hope that you have had a chance to research conley with some degree of thoroughness, so as to dispel some of the half-truths that some bible students and jws try to promote (such as that conley's age and health caused his inactivity with russell after 1881).
Interesting thread!
i have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the slave as our mother?
the brothers at bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual mother with respect.
jehovah is our father, the faithful slave (the governing body) is our spiritual mammy.
Gothicus... the proof text they used was Proverb 6:20??? are you serious?
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good news... the governing body has decided to postpone armageddon while they move brooklyn bethel to upstate ny.... the town of warwick, new york has just approved the watchtowers environmental impact statement.. but they have to wait until the rattlesnakes hibernate before bringing in their land clearing equipment.... see article in times herald record.
Good news... the Governing Body has decided to postpone Armageddon while they move Brooklyn Bethel to upstate NY...
The Town of Warwick, New York has just approved the Watchtower’s environmental impact statement.
But they have to wait until the rattlesnakes hibernate before bringing in their land clearing equipment…
See article in Times Herald Record
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he apparently committed suicide in october 2010.... ex-bethelite's skull found near beach in delaware.
so tragic.... .
Timothy Finamore | |
 Age 53, beloved husband, father, relative, and friend to so many, passed away on October 15, 2010.Tim was born in Manhattan, New York on November 12, 1956. Tim grew up on Staten Island and graduated from Port Richmond High School. He faithfully served for eleven years at the world headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in New York. Thereafter, he successfully ran his own business; Aftermarket Restylers. He was the son of the late Michael and Helen Finamore and the third of seven children. Tim is survived by his wife of 34 years, Pamela Ruth Finamore; two children, Jordan Caleb Finamore and Sasha Maria Finamore; brothers, Steve Finamore and Paul Finamore; four sisters: Joyce Wilson and her husband, Judy Guidice and her husband, Laura Finamore and Mary Delaney; and loving nieces and nephews. A Memorial Service will be held on Saturday, October 30, at 2 pm at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses, 1103 Milltown Rd. Wilmington, Delaware 19808. To express an online condolence, visit strano-feeley.com. STRANO & FEELEY FAMILY FUNERAL HOME 302-731-5459. Published in The News Journal on October 27, 2010 | |
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he apparently committed suicide in october 2010.... ex-bethelite's skull found near beach in delaware.
so tragic.... .
Notjustyet...
Not sure of the details… the link was emailed to me… it's interesting that he apparently had a business similar to the one mentioned in this thread...
Cacky...
So true
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he apparently committed suicide in october 2010.... ex-bethelite's skull found near beach in delaware.
so tragic.... .
He apparently committed suicide in October 2010…
ex-bethelite's skull found near beach in Delaware
So tragic…
hello caleb fans.... my name is ole yella... i am a distinctive yellow airplane based on a wwii dive-bomber and i happen to be one of calebs favorite toys.
his parents dont know this yet, but in my former life, i was used quite extensively as a special pioneer throughout europe where massive bombing of airfields and military installations was required.
i am also proud to say that i have caused the deaths of thousands upon thousands of innocent women and children in the late 1930s and early 1940s in various other theatres of operation (isaiah 18:6; luke 21:25).
Thanks Rebel8
I only sought to elucidate how the Watchtower Speculatory Investment Corporation cunningly applies psychological manipulation techniques in their desperate attempts to capture the imagination of young ones in order to forcefully introduce their hidden agenda into their fragile sub-consciousness at just the right time.
It’s imperative for the Watchtower that young ones be continuously exposed to images of death, war and destruction at a very early age in order to lay down a strong foundation for easy submission through fear. Using a yellow WWII dive bomber was just another clever subliminal metaphor for death and destruction (much like the illustration of Adam and Eve used in this DVD).
On the other hand, by showing that God “hates magic”, the Watchtower essentially crushes the imagination and creativity of children making it much easier to turn born-ins into submissive automatons at an early age.
That being said, I don’t believe that I’ve uncovered anything that most of you don’t already know… Just thought I’d shed some light on the Yellow toy used in this DVD since all the focus was evidently on the Purple toy…
Cheers!
hello caleb fans.... my name is ole yella... i am a distinctive yellow airplane based on a wwii dive-bomber and i happen to be one of calebs favorite toys.
his parents dont know this yet, but in my former life, i was used quite extensively as a special pioneer throughout europe where massive bombing of airfields and military installations was required.
i am also proud to say that i have caused the deaths of thousands upon thousands of innocent women and children in the late 1930s and early 1940s in various other theatres of operation (isaiah 18:6; luke 21:25).
Hello Caleb fans…
My name is “Ole Yella”… I am a distinctive yellow airplane based on a WWII dive-bomber and I happen to be one of Caleb’s favorite toys. His parents don’t know this yet, but in my former life, I was used quite extensively as a “special pioneer” throughout Europe where massive bombing of airfields and military installations was required. I am also proud to say that I have caused the deaths of thousands upon thousands of innocent women and children in the late 1930’s and early 1940’s in various other theatres of operation (Isaiah 18:6; Luke 21:25).
What makes me extra special is my exclusive W-shaped wing design (known in aviation circles as an “inverted gull wing design”) which permits me to be fitted with a much larger propeller (on a more powerful in-line or radial piston engine) and a slightly more compact landing gear. The main purpose of this special W-shaped wing design is be able to take off and land on any aircraft carrier or improvised military airfield. Oh, by the way, it also allowed for the external mounting of large destructive bombs. I used to be fitted with double synchronized machine guns (to prevent shooting holes through my massive propeller) but those were taken off when I retired and became a toy.
By the way, I am actually based on an advanced dive-bomber design that was eventually copied by the Germans, Americans and Japanese (Google: Junkers Ju-87, Corsair F4U and Mitsubishi A5M).
As part of an ongoing mind control experiment, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses have chosen me to be one of Caleb’s toys in attempt to gauge the general level of cognizance amongst the rank-and-file as regards to historical wartime matters. And it appears, so far, that no one has noticed that I am based on a tactical dive bomber that caused massive destruction and loss of life before most JWs alive today were even born.
That being the result of this particular part of their experiment, the Governing Body can now proceed to change their story about the “Purple Triangles” and their pre-Knorr history yet again, knowing all too well that few JWs will take any time to research anything, let alone the origins of a little yellow airplane that represents something far worse than Caleb’s other “magical” toy (which has evidently captivated everyone’s attention). Little did they know that this “straw-man” technique would still work on ex-JWs as well.
Carry on Caleb friends…
Ole Yella
